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the building blocks for this severe weather continues tonight. we'll watch it with super interest, and we'll continue to update you you. "viewpoint" is next. >> good evening. this is "viewpoint." before we get to the political news of the day we're going to report on the latest of the tornadoes that smashed into the the oklahoma region this afternoon. it lasted 20 miles long and three miles wide in oklahoma city. two dozen children may have been killed in plaza towers elementary school, and cnn is report the ten people killed in oklahoma city so far and a local hospital reports dozens of injured in the town of oklahoma. neighborhoods were describeed by police as completely leveled and wiped clear. more than 170,000 people were in the path of this giant storm
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ranked an ef 4 the second most powerful on the scale used to measure tornadoes. now joining me is jamie shelton public information officer for more on oklahoma emergency management. mr. shelton, can you hear me? in yes, i can. >> i thank you for your time on this terrible day. what can you tell us what is it that you need more on the ground. >> what we need most is for the people who are not in the affected area to stay home and to stay out of the affected area. it causes problems for our emergency management professionals police and fire to get in the area. if we have people who want to come and look, they get in the way of doing that. >> john: we heard the reports of all the fourth, fifth and sixth graders at plaza towers elementary school were evacuated
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in time but the search is going on for the third graders, is that correct? >> i haven't heard that. i heard that that school and another school was hit. we have one junior high was hit and i'm sure if there is anybody trapped our fire and police professionals will be there along with teachers and staff to get those kids out. >> john: oklahoma is historically a region prone to terrible tornadoes. how common--we've never seen anything like this, but how much warning time-- >> we have seen this. may 3 1999, the largest hurricane ever recorded, it hit oklahoma. and then we were hit again may 8, 2003. we have seen this, and we have people who were here at that time, and they're still here, i hate to say that we were practiced, but we have done this, and we are he's doing the
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best that we can. >> the tornado you speak of resulted in 33 deaths. we hope there is less deaths here. what is the process for you once word comes of a hurricane this magnitude. >> we've known for two or three days the potential for severe weather. we make sure that people have their plans in place and people understand the importance of having a centralized space in their home, either a shelter or a center of the home, the closet or bathroom and refreshen everyone on the pre-talkingses. we knew this was happening so we were able to sound our sirens four times before it even reached our city limits. >> when the sirens go off, do people know that that is the signal that it's coming and imminent or that it's a warning. >> no, that it's coming our way.
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>> the schools are not closed on days like that. >> they are not sent home so that way they're not home by themselves. those kids are sheltered and in place at the schools. once it's passed and everybody is safe, we'll release the buses and send kids home. >> the rating for the tornado would be winds of 200 miles per hour. is that close to what happened in 1999. >> that was a different system. they changed it to the ef system 37 but 1999 was the largest recorded, so this one is definitely up in that category. >> john: of course, we have seen the images of the debris all across the city and the searching and rescue operation going on at the school. i'm curious how did the rescue crews approach a disaster with concern for living survivors
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below the rubble? >> they're going to be just listening for sound listening for people, and then it's a slow and steady kind of process. just to be able to go through and listen for help. >> john: sir, do you feel you'll anticipate the possibility of more tornadoes over the next three to four days. >> i'm not watching the weather map. i know there are storms firing up across the state. i know there were storms in the shawnee area, so we're not the only affected areas. >> john: if people want to help, do you recommend the red cross? >> yes we recommend the red cross. you can donate by texting or going to the website. at some point we may ask for some other donations but we'll wait until that time arise jazz for the city of oklahoma city emergency management, sir, thank
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you for your time on this terrible day. >> thank you very much. >> john: joining me is the lieutenant with the oklahoma city police department. thank you for joining us. >> good evening. >> john: sir, you know the process of when this sort of disaster happens but please walk us through when a tragedy like a school is leveled how does the police department begin going about a search and rescue effort? >> it's a pretty structured response. you want to get as many emergency personnel in the area as you can get. we always have a good response from neighboring communities even some of the cities that are northeast and west, in the metro areas, they've responded to the area. we need to secure the area to help control access to it so we don't have looting and property crimes. at the same time we have control the traffic in and out of the area. so the highway patrol has done
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we made the interstates one way exclusive for rescue efforts so only entrepreneurial personnel in and out. we can transport the survivors to the hospital. we also have a lot of volunteers that are assisting with the search efforts. ideally that's what you need to do. go in and it's a slow process. you go from building to building room by room, and you look and you listen for people, and you can't really go in there with large equipment and move a lot of debris around because there are survivors in the debris, you move it around, and you cause more injuries or even fatality. it's a process that will go on quite some time. >> john: sir, is it law enforcement doing this searching room to room, door to door. can civilians help in this as well. >> it is law enforcement and there are citizens out in the
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search efforts. the scale of the destruction is just so large that every person assisting is welcome. >> john: we know that plaza towers elementary managed to evacuate the fourth through sixth graders. are there any estimates of how many people might still be in that school? >> we don't. that's what we're working on. we're trying to find out. there are so many people who are all over the place. you have to try to locate where the people went to. sometimes they're picked up by family. sometimes they left on their own. and there's always the possibility that they may still be inside the building. that's what we're trying to work through at this point identify where all the people are at, and who exactly is it that we're looking for. >> john: of course. now you mentioned shoeing down the highway--shutting down the highway and converting it for emergency vehicles and patient transport to hospitals. i imagine you have to transport heavy machinery to sift through
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the wreckage. >> we will but right now it's hands-on effort. right now if you move in heavy machinery you may cause more injury. the best resource we have is to just go in and use your senses. we also have canines. canines can go in and obviously have a sense of smell that is much greater than ours. they can pinpoint where people are in the debris. >> john: sir how common are tornadoes to your job? we normally only hear about the big ones like this in 1999. is this something that you deal with throughout the year? >> it really is. you know, this is tornado alley and we're no strangeer to tornadoes in the area. i guess we kind of get used to it until you have something that is on this scale. this is probably the largest one that i've seen. i think the season is going to be larger than the ones we've seen in years past, so you know, you kind of--you gettoused to it
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where other parts of the--you get used to it where other parts of the country might be shaken by tornadoes. it's normal for us, but this is huge. we're not used to this type of destruction. >> john: yes, sir, at two miles wide some are saying this might be more devastating than the 1999 tornado, would you agree? >> i would agree. that's how it appears at this point. >> john: what can people do who want to help besides staying away from the area. >> that's really the best thing to do. once we secure the area, if you just try to avoid the area, then that's the best resource we've got. we've got hospitals that are outside of the area where this happened where they're providing medical treatment. of course, there is always the option donate blood. we're going to need plenty of below products. and really that's just it. >> john: lieutenant kevin parton with the oklahoma police department. thank you for your time on this
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most devastating of days. we'll be right back. thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?
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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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>> john: turning now to washington and the irs associated press stories. one of the scandal that would be ap, the irs story it could be heading there. on "face the nation" sunday, president gary pruitt attacked the department of justice for its sweeping subpoena of phone records used by hundreds of ap reporters. >> so sweeping so secretively so abusively and harassingly and overbroad that it it's an uninstitutional act. >> john: the justice department said it obtained the records to stop a national security leak. on sunday pruitt said the doj's actions were already damaging the news agency's journalisms and the public's right to know. >> officials who would normally talk to us and people we talk to in the normal course of news
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gathering are already say to go us they're reluctant. it's not hypothetical. we're seeing impact already. >> john: now the justice department also under fire for using search waters warrants to investigate james rosen who allegedly obtained classified information from a state department contractor on north korea's nuclear intentions. they not only got their phone records but read e-mails and label him a coconspirator. what did president obama know about the case and when he knew it. chief of staff dennis dennis mcdonda knew last month that irs had targeted some groups on tax exemption status. >> we did not have a copy of the draft report. we did not know the details the
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scope or the motivation surrounding the misconduct. and we did not know who was responsible. most importantly the report was not final and still very much subject to change. >> john: republican leaders however, were all over the sunday shows with talking points that wrapped the irs ap stories into one scandalous narrative. >> it's a culture in the administration that it's okay to cover these things up, and part of it has to do with the intimidation that the administration is using against some of its critics. >> this is arrogance of power abuse of power to the inth degree. >> this is a culture of intimidation and this the irs is just an example. national security leaks that endanger americans around the world are a serious matter. >> john: for more, i'm joined by
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robert greenwald the latest, his "war on whistle blowers:: free press and the national security state" "p" thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> john: naming james rosen a coconspirator part of what you would call a war on whistle blowers. >> i don't think there is any doubt about it. we've been working on this film for nine months, but the timing of it could not be more relevant but also more troubling. from fox news and ap in between this is a systemic effort to silence critics to stop whistle blowers, and most dangerously as you just heard go after the press. try to get people afraid of talking, afraid of cooperating and one thing we know for sure, the only time we find about about the military complex is when there is an investigation
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by a report or whistle plower. >> john: i give you a lot of credit you've been consistent on this issue regardless of who is in the oval office, can you explain what would be the difference between a reporter getting a big scoop and an actual whistle blower? >> well, an actual national whistle blower is somebody by the way who clearly--this is not a leaker. a leaker is leaking because he or she has something to gain. john brennan on drones is a classic leaker. a whistle blower, like in our war on whistle blowing film is because he or she sees something that is wrong they cannot abide by it whether it's breaking the law, endangering lives wasting money, and has to speak out. that's what national security whistle blowers do, they speak out. the most effective way they can speak out over and over again they tell us the story in the film is to go to investigative
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reporters. they try to work in channels. it doesn't work, so they reach out to the press. the press has been heroic in telling many of those stories. >> john: the ap's gary pruitt said the agency's ability to do their job has already been compromised. what sort of long-term damage do you fear could come out of investigations like these? >> as we saw in the "war on whistle blowers' film, they said over and over again said it's getting harder and harder to do their jobs because whistle blowers are afraid already. they already are being harassed. the government has gone after tom drake with the espionage act, and the act on spying. the fact that the government is coming after the whistle blowers hard and fast with lawyers, the fact that they're getting phone records, checking e-mails even following people is crucially important to you and to me
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because it's about our security, it's about our tax dollars, it's about saving lives. more lives are saved by whistle blowers than almost any other people who are speaking up and out in this fashion because they know what's going on. >> john: well, the obama administration has has been well documented on fox promised to be transparent on national security issues. what does ap fox stories say about that promise? do you find areas where he has improved above his predecessor president bush. >> it's not national security whistle belowers, but other when blowers. they have passed a law that helps other whistle blowers with security and other details. but if you believe this is fundamental to the kind of country we are and the way we function then unfortunately this administration has been
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terrible in terms of its policy, in terms of its politics, and how it has consistently taken the side and supported c.i.a. pentagon, private contractors. >> john: well according to a new cnn poll around 53% of adults think the ap story is very important. around the same think the irs and the benghazi stories are important. do you think that's about right? did you expect more public outrage because ap does seem to be the closest thing to a real scandal we've got here. >> well, it's hard, look people are struggling. there is a terrible, terrible economic crisis. people are without jobs. they're continue to go lose their homes. they can't pay for schools for their children. people are still being killed in wars. so to talk about whistle blowers and reporters feel a bit abstract. i didn't expect to see people picking up pitchforks and
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marching in the street. but if you see the issue and understand its connection to a national security state that has more money more power and billions of our dollars you begin to say hey wait a minute. let's connect the dots here as we do in the film and say this is a deep problem that we need to understand that's fundamental to a country where so many of our precious resources and lives are being put into invading, up aingupoccupying, and droning rather than educating. >> john: million dollar question. why so much outrage over the ap story but not over bradley manning? >> i think that's a really good question, and i don't have a quick answer for you. but i would say with time i think that there will be more unhappiness as people understand the ap story better, and it's implications to threaten and silent the ap. >> john: robert greenwald, his
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latest on "war on whistle blowers:: free press and national security of state." thank you for taking time to be on "viewpoint." >> my pleasure. >> john: now to join me, rick unger and founder of ljw strategies and president of the brooklyn naacp, great to have my two friends here as always. how much damage is the irs story causing the administration? >> so far not have much. the irs story, while it connects with people more than all these other ones, there are not a lot of there, there. we all know what happened there. it's unfortunate. it shouldn't have happened. not likely to cause real damage. we're seeing other things that are. >> it could, but l joy, do you agree about the irs? >> yes, as he pointed out people understand that more it's an agency that people engage with, so people have their own
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frustrations with the irs and people can understand it more in terms of the ap story. >> everybody hates them. >> john: true, but the administration's efforts at damage control, the president didn't know about this, he was out of the loop, is this helping the administration or hurting them. >> it's hard to tell. people ultimately trust the president, so most american people trust the president and they trust what he says. if he goes on national tv and says i found out about this at this time people believe him. it's very hard to convince the american people, well, some american people-- >> john: mm-hmm, exactly. >> that he actually orchestrated this to happen. >> john: the numbers bear it out. the president's numbers are up from 51% to 53%. what does that mean? does that mean that this is not a problem for him? what does it mean, or are people paying attention yet. >> we saw this before in the
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clinton-monica lewinsky scandal. his numbers went up in the heart of the scandal. it means that democrats come back to protect their own when things get tough. >> and republicans do, too too. >> that's really what is happening here. we need a few more weeks to see if this is having an impact. >> john: when you look at this scandal. >> as we can't even use that word. >> john: there are people who are now demanding that the president be impeached saying we weren't political. as people understand more about 501 c 4s this would be a good thing in educating the public in what the citizens united has done? >> no, we're asking people to do more. as your previous guest just said people have other things they're worried about in terms of the economy housing national disasters so people will stop paying attention to what is in the news. but what is interesting to point out, remember there has been an intent to stick a scandal to
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this administration for a long time. >> john: there has been, really? >> there could be something else to be said. they keep trying to drum up something, it doesn't stick. people say i don't see it, i don't get it. >> john: when you look back at the clinton administration there was always a new gate. we're doing a segment at the end of the show comparing nixon and obama. do you think the g.o.p. is getting traction on their nixon nixonian that this was to shut it down. >> the knicksian pitch had to do with benghazi. notice we haven't heard a word about benghazi ever since we found out that the e-mails were doctored by something who must be republican. and i'm waiting for darrell issa to bring those people to the front of the committee. benghazi has thrown out of the
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news. unfortunately, which i suspect we'll be talking about, i have concerns about with some thing that happened in the nixon era and what happened today. is. >> john: pertain to go james rosen. >> yes, i'm very very concerned about that. >> john: and will holderring be looking for a job as many others will be doing. >> we can ask the attorney general to leave. if it does hold up, if there is not an explanation, which i badly hope there is, there is something in me that is not satisfied with just the attorney general. >> cenk: you're not alone. a lot of people feel that way on both sides of the ail. l joy, i'll ask you the last question. can we look forward to anything happening legislative other than buildings being named after ronald reagan after the year. >> i'm not sure we are.
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we haven't seen a great movement in terms of gun control protecting people on that aspect. there is still the back and forth conversation on immigration reform. you know so i don't see anything major coming out unless there is some major thing from god that comes down and brings everyone together. remember last week people were the heritage foundation and others said just keep these scandals and conversations going on and not to legislate. don't do your job. just keep talking. >> john: immigration will come back before the midterms, and benghazi will come back the day hillary clinton makes her first visit to iowa. my prediction. rick uner and l. joy will return later in the show. but the next scandal. how america treats its veterans. that's up next.
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>> john: welcome back. my things of a nation can't even take care of the troops it decided to place in harm's way how can that nation claim to be
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a country worth fighting for. it's that question that is at the center of two real scandals that are now plaguing our nation's military. first the national disgrace that is the backlog now nearly 600,000 of veterans waiting on disability claims through veteran affairs leading to increased criticism of president obama and eric sensheki who have yet to get the problem under control. and the sky rocketing rates of suicide which hit a new high last year at 350 american service members took their own lives. while the politics prove less entertaining than the fodder of last week they may prove a real measure of where our nation currently stands. for more on these issues we're joined by thomas benzel. thank you for your time this evening. >> thank you for having me. >> john: can you please explain the process for applying for
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benefits from the va and what is creating this backlog? >> well, the process is fairly straightforward. a person who is injured or disabled or became disabled while on active duty with the military, and provided they served long enough with the military can apply to the department of veteran's affairs which are guaranteed by contract under the original agreement of going into the military. the application process is fairly easy. it's now in electronic format thanks to our friend paul sullivan he mate that happen. it's just a straight up issue of applying it and showing that you're disabled. and the disability comes from active service or occurred while in military service or had a
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condition that was made worse while on active duty. from there it goes into a rating decision matrix, and it's usually a local or regional office where a rating office takes the claim and merely looking at it for check box items. did he have enough time in service. did the person really suffer the injury that they said they did. do they have the medical evidence to support it. if so the claim is paid or the injury is taken care of or the medical benefits are granted. what is happening at that level the r.o level the claims system is logging down because the r.o. is inundated with these claims and it's easier to make the claim somebody else's problem in the appeals process which goes on from there. the denial rate on claims is extremely high. unfortunately, the veteran has
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to suffer. >> john: that's really trouble and rather disgusting to hear. why have we failed so miserably taking care of our veterans. is it too many claims or understaffing at the v.a.? >> well, i no longer believe it's a staffing issue. i also have to say that as a leader i know secretary shenseki on a personal level and you can't find a more capable and competent person to lead the agency. they're trying to work with as many people as they can to get the backlog fixed. at the regional office, again these people have been there for a while. they're government service employees, and they know there is nothing that you can do to either remove them or replace them, so they just continue on doing the things that they like to do, and there's nothing that
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really--there is nothing that has been done to get them out of the way. >> john: i'm baffled why this backlog continues to exist and grow. if it's not a staffing problem and we know that the pentagon and the v.a. is not affected by the sequester then it has to be a funding issue. if the blame doesn't fall on the head of benefits, allison hickey or fall on the president or does it fall on a previous administration that sent all these troops to war. who do we place the blame and how do we start to fix it? >> well, you have to understand that v.a. has and was underfunded under the previous administration for eight years. each year you look at the funding under secretary nicholson, and the funding actually went down even though we were at war. >> john: amazing. >> secretary shenseki has asked for, and rather secretary shenseki has asked for and
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gotten increased funding every year. my guess is that he's not asking for enough funding. that's one issue. automation is another issue. the claims process for up until about two years ago was mostly a manual process, a paper process. it's just in the last few years that a true automation process has come into existence. the veteran's benefits management system is now becoming the standard, and it's all electronic. prior to that it would be up to an individual rating officer to sit there and look at hard copy documents of case files. these case files are rather thick. they have to go through them paper by paper by paper. >> john: two 21st century wars and we're using 20th century technology. is digitizing the solution?
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>> i think digitizing is the solution and i think they were using 1940s technology, i'm not sure that we were even that modern. it's incredible how back and arcane if you went to one of these regional offices and i've been through several of them, they literally have floors and floors and floors of files on carts with paper folders and that's what they have to use to adjudicate these cases with. it's unbelievably insane. >> john: well, we'll have to save the tragic issue of military suicide for another day. we took a lot of time on this because it's so shocking and people deserve to know about it. they're under informed. thomas bendzul, thank you so much for your insight this evening. >> thank you. >> john: of course. this week we're looking at colorado because high altitude might be killing some brain cells. that's coming up next.
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>> john: this week our wtf america visits the great state of colorado where nucla has just passed an ordinance that makes gun ownership mandatory. that's right you can't spell mandatory without "man." and this town is so manly that it's against the law to be not manly enough, and you have to own a gun. you're e earth if you can't legally own a gun or you don't want to own a gun. in other words, it's a completely pointless ordinance. but passing an unenforceable pro gun law is cheaper than something that might have addressed their problem like stocking up on erectile
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dysfunction medication. this symbolizes the fact that members of n uclv have way too much time on this hands. if government intervention is okay as long as someone, anyone, is shot. mayor richard craig announced criminals are put on notice, period. we're armed except for the ones who aren't armed because they don't really want to be. but be forewarned, if you come messing with nuccla, colorado, they have a meaningless ordinance that will kick your ass. >>beltway politics from inside the loop. >>we tackle the big issues here in our nation's capital, around the country and around the globe. >>dc columnist and four time emmy winner bill press opens current's morning news block. >>we'll do our best to carry the flag from 6 to 9 every morning.
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>> john: today's thing of the day is the musical mishap of the day. last night on the billboard musical awards which i have been following ever since i heard of them this weekend chris brown's voice crack. [♪ singing ♪] >> john: at least he didn't choke. in his defense at least chris brown was singing this time, and not lip-syncing admittedly i'm setting the bar very low which every woman who goes out with chris brown--i don't want to hear it from you. screw that guy. i hate to hit you with election news already but republicans in
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virginia just nominated a tea partyer for lieutenant governor. >> the democrat party has created an unholy alliance between certain so-called silver rights leaders and planned parenthood which has killed more black babies. they >> john: that was right wing black guy in the picture of four prerogative black people. the only thing worse is the kkk is the non-profit that offers free mammograms. what and what will lgbt. >> right their minds are reverted. they're frankly very sick people psychologically and mentally and emotionally, and they see everything through the lens of homosexuality. >> john: as opposed to gay hate be straight people. jackson also said president obama looks at the world through
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a muslim perspective. by the time he gets to that i'm kind of numb. by the way the g.o.p. nominee more governor also has the template of blind rage of abortion environmental protections and guy rights, and their choice for attorney general, mark obenshain once pitched a law to charge women of a misdemeanor if they did not report a miscarry to police. the g.o.p. is barely out of the 2012 election, and here comes the crazy. let's bring in my panel of none experts. rick unger contributor to forbes.com, l. joy williams, and elaine boozeeler welcome back. great to have you all here. rick, this is painful. >> which part?
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>> john: i'm half virginian, and virginia is the state that had the first african-american governor. have they changed at all before elected right wing guys. >> are you half northern virginia or half southern virginia. you go to the north and you see a very different picture from the south. >> john: i'm half southern virginia. >> and it's the southerners who gave you the slate this week. not much has changed. it's not everybody in the state. >> john: of course. >> that's what is important to keep in behind. >> john: l. joy, how do we end up with extremists. >> also in how the party chose to nominate. they decided to go a convention route is that you get the people who care about the party the most who are going to be the most vocal.
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>> who are extreme. >> and who are extreme and will vote for someone for their interests. i'm wait for two things from the republican party. i'm waiting for an adult in the room to stand up and is a in say no ma as, spanish for a reason. they are not going to be sustainable. keep going to the right. somebody stand up. >> john: does this marginalize the republican party even more. >> i want to know is virginia still for lovers or not. >> john: they're for lovers and haters. >> there is no shortage of loonies, but there are the people who vote enough to put them up there. and you have to blame the voters for not having fixed the educational system for years. >> they were so pleased about
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the election. >> john: we'll get to that. terry mccan you live may be the reason why john kerry lost the white house. the lgbt and rights for african-americans who which were opposed. >> they can keep their homosexuality private. you and i cannot hide being black. >> john: that's what america is all about keeping your true nature private for fear of people beating you up. in a free society. does this man's objections to americans living as free people have any merit. >> this is what we see and other people are fighting for the same rights as lgbt americans should have. and people are trying to compare
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being guy to being--being gay to being black. no one is comparing being gay to being black. what they're compare something a group of people who are not able to execute their full rights as citizens as the same african-americans who at the time were asking for the same protection and the same equal rights. people who are assuming we're dumb and stupid, but we're not. we understand 9 civil rights organizations who have been in sort of lgbt americans. no one is equating race and sexuality. >> john: but we've heard some clergy make the same claims. it's not civil rights. they choose to be gay, and. >> i'm going to be doing pieces of words tonight. >> john: how important is a man
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like mr. jackson for comedy. >> i would much rather have good government and just do fat jokes. boy, someone has been putting something in my in my ice cream. it's not ever about my comedy, good political comedy. it's about the issues not the person. you never need someone this far off the mark to be a good comedian and we don't need them to fetus our stuff. it's always the issues. but one deal with men. when men stop telling women what abortion is, i'll stop writing treaties of what it's like to be black in america. >> john: i'll agree with that as a white man. >> something that is also insulting, what tea party groups and hand picking these african-american candidates who are on these extreme
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extreme--insulting--they're conservative african-americans who are not extreme. even if they believe in certain conservative values, they are not this. it is insulting that you will pick someone like this as opposed to other conservative african-americans and other people of color across the country who believe in your values, and who could be a good candidate, and instead you're picking these people who are using, and it's not serious. that's insulting. >> if you're black and lgbt, do you just get half freedom. >> john: a quarter freedom. rick, before we go to break i'm not a member of the democrat party, and you are. does it hurt when they use the word democrat party. this guy jackson, the democrat party. >> it doesn't hurt my feelings. >> john: do you understand what that slur is about? >> i don't but i'm flattered. if this die is dising me, it's
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okay by me. >> john: they seem to hate most of it unless it agrees with them. we'll give the republic a little perspective because they need it. that's coming up next.
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>> john: welcome back. quick question. what is the biggest presidential scandal of our lifetime. >> considering my lifetime is longer than others is watergate. >> john: l. joy. >> going to iraq. >> when we found out that we freed the slaves not to free the slaves but to keep the union. >> john: you're all wrong. it's iran-contra. the only real legislative scandal is the scandalous needs of legislature to invent scandals so they don't have to legislate. those who once told us obama was a muslim are now telling us that
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obama has mastered minded all these scandals. now nixon is flying through the air. center orrin hatch said i never have seen anything like this except in the past during the nixon years. >> add watergate and iran-contra and multiply by ten which is confuseing math because iran-contra is watergate tense time. and it lets all the way up to people who have never met anyone in the top reaches of government. if you believe that behavior in a crisis is the same as an irs cock up that results in paperwork for people. it may surprise you to learn there are suesel differences between barack obama and richard nixon. when nixon learned that the irs audited conservatives was made
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them audit liberals on his enemy list. he used irs because he was a drug delusional socio-path. and obama's treasurey department scoped the scrutinizing under douglas schilman, a bush appoint appointee, which is like two and a half men fired ashton kutcher because charlie sheen. nixon used bribely blackmail spying forgery and to spy on the press for political purposes and obama can't even get gun
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purchasing background checks when 90% of the public supports. nixon was engaged in a bloody war, and obama--oh wait. both were pro environment both were corporate centrists both liked the drug war a bit too much. both were not shy to raise taxes. nixon was a liberal than his party could admit and obama is much more of a conservative that his party can admit. nixon thought there were people out to get him. and obama admits that there are people out to get him. i would like to thank my panelists rick unger, r. joy williams and elayne boosier and
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our thoughts go out to all those involved in the >> joy: tonight despite being embroiled in three scandals president obama's latest approval ratings show no decline at all. and will the tea party use the troubles to get their groove back? you bet ya. and erotic fiction is on the rise. i'll find out why this genre is hotter than ever tonight. [♪ theme music ♪] >> joy: if you thought fox new's coverage of the irs scandal was funny, check out seth meyers and amy poehler on snl.
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